Jul 22, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05
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#1
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: W/
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Make Aggressive Refrain suck less
Alright, I have to say something.
the only decent duration IAS for a paragon sucks balls. 25 energy, while my para has 30 base. Cracked armor, reapplied every time a shout/chant ends. Makes my hero monk with dismiss condition do nothing but. No adrenaline boost to make it worthwhile.
A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE...drop the energy cost to 15e so it's viable, maybe add an adrenaline boost (like 20% chance of double adren) or remove cracked armor altogether. You can keep it as-is for PvP..as people still use it and make it work.
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP]
Profession: Me/Rt
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IMO, you're missing the point here. It's a permanent and unstrippable IAS. Anthem of Flame maintains it on recharge, and you GAIN energy (-5, +6 at 12 leadership) in a full party. All you do is cast it when you enter a zone, maintain with Anthem of Flame which is a pretty solid boost to your entire party, and then dominate. If you can't stand Cracked Armor, take a Foul Feast/Plague Sending necro to deal with it - which BTW is not a big deal, it's not like you're a frontline character. You've even got a skill to deal with the fact that you might have less armor - [There's Nothing to Fear!]. Plus the Centurion's Insignias that you should always have on halve the issue in the first place.
AR is more than powerful enough as is. No poll, so /notsigned.
Editing because I messed up on my energy math and removing a skill I mentioned.
Last edited by zelgadissan; Jul 22, 2008 at 09:15 PM // 21:15..
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#3
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Yes, I can see how perma 25% ias sucks :gnasher:
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A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE.
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Hahah, no.
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#4
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Emo Goth Italics
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Should I explain why it's still imbalanced or should I just flame you? Decisions decisions...
25 energy for a one-time cost, and just renew it. GG. The Dismiss problems are minimal.
Oh, and I like how you said "So it's viable". Stop being bad.
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19
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#5
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Alcoholic From Yale
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]
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Wait.
You want to buff the 2nd best IAS in the game?
How is it NOT VIABLE?!
/notsigned
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21
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#6
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Alright, I have to say something.
the only decent duration IAS for a paragon sucks balls. 25 energy, while my para has 30 base. Cracked armor, reapplied every time a shout/chant ends. Makes my hero monk with dismiss condition do nothing but. No adrenaline boost to make it worthwhile.
A Paragon with cracked armor becomes a soft target in PvE...drop the energy cost to 15e so it's viable, maybe add an adrenaline boost (like 20% chance of double adren) or remove cracked armor altogether. You can keep it as-is for PvP..as people still use it and make it work.
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25 energy isn't a problem. Cast it when you get into a zone, cast a 5e anthem on recharge. Paragons have great energy management. Besides, its a 1 time cost.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. A paragon with cracked armor still has 76 armor, which is more armor than every other profession except for warrior.
If it's on pretty much every single paragons bar, it's viable, and it doesn't need to be changed.
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22
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#7
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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OP.
Learn to GW, then talk about balancing. For now, no.
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Jul 22, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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#8
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: New Zealand FTW
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
IMO, you're missing the point here. It's a permanent and unstrippable IAS. Anthem of Flame maintains it on recharge, and you GAIN energy (-5, +6 at 12 leadership) in a full party. All you do is cast it when you enter a zone, maintain with Anthem of Flame which is a pretty solid boost to your entire party, and then dominate. If you can't stand Cracked Armor, take a Foul Feast/Plague Sending necro to deal with it - which BTW is not a big deal, it's not like you're a frontline character. You've even got a skill to deal with the fact that you might have less armor - [There's Nothing to Fear!]. Plus the Centurion's Insignias that you should always have on halve the issue in the first place.
AR is more than powerful enough as is. No poll, so /notsigned.
Editing because I messed up on my energy math and removing a skill I mentioned.
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errrrr
/thread?
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Your backline
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
How is it NOT VIABLE?!
/notsigned
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But don't you see. It gives CRACKED .. ARMOR.
CRACKED.
ARMOR.
And euhm, yeh. zelgadissan gave a perfect answer.
No.
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★
Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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cracked armor is imba. put srsly? cant u use this, than ursan, and self maintain it with ursan roar? thats not imba?
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28
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#11
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: somewhere over the rainbow....
Profession: A/
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i lol'd
god no its already ridiculously overpowered
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44
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#12
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: America.....got a problem with that?
Guild: [Lite]
Profession: W/
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all the regular trolls already got here, so i dont have much to add besides........
your wrong.
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Netherlands
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Werent you the person who had a thread called: ''Frenzy is a bad skill'' like some years ago?
/notsigned btw
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51
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#14
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: W/
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Was I? I don't remember.
Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.
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Jul 22, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55
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#15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.
Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.
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Wrong again, read AR's description.
God, no wonder most of the people in pve think paragons suck- they're terribad.
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00
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#16
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: W/
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whatever...this can be closed.
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Netherlands
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.
Whatever...
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Its called sarcasm.
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: America.....got a problem with that?
Guild: [Lite]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A11Eur0
Was I? I don't remember.
Whatever...so you have to run a specific type of build for it to work...no creativity allowed. mmk.
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no, you just need to bring [anthem of flame] or [anthem of weariness]
thats like saying ele's have no creativity because they need attunments, or frenzy is bad because you need a cancel stance.
synergy= gud
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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#19
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2007
Location: living room
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex the Great
all the regular trolls already got here, so i dont have much to add besides........
your wrong.
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QFT and its already imba
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19
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#20
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: England
Profession: Mo/Me
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learn to play, use flail if ur QQing about cracked, otherwise its teh best ias in teh gamezorz
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